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The Ceasing of Notions – 26 Emmon at last understands
Identifier
029199
Type of Spiritual Experience
Background
The Higher spirit is out of time, so there can be no cause and effect.
A description of the experience
The Ceasing of Notions
Emmon: "What does it mean that all things are the Buddhadharma?"
Master Nyuri: "Whether things or not things, all are the Buddhadharma."
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Emmon: "What is called 'thing' what 'no-thing' and what 'neither thing nor no-thing'?"
Master Nyuri: "What 'is' is called 'thing' what 'is not' is called 'no-thing'; and what is not encompassed by either 'is' or 'is not' is called 'neither thing nor no-thing."'
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Emmon: "Who verifies this statement ?"
Master Nyuri: "This statement is without who; why should you ask for it to be verified?"
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Emmon: "If there is no one, who then states what?"
Master Nyuri: "No who, no statement – that is the true statement"
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Emmon: "What then would be called a false statement?"
Master Nyuri: "The notion that there is something to state."
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Emmon: "If this is being caught in thought, what then is no-thought?"
Master Nyuri: "Thought is but a word. Since words themselves are without any substance, thought too is empty."
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Emmon: "If this accords with the teachings, then all sentient beings are from the beginning already enlightened tathagatas"
Master Nyuri: "Since there are no bonds, how can there be liberated beings?"
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Emmon: "What is the name of this Dharma?"
Master Nyuri: "There is no Dharma – even less a name."
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Emmon: "If this is the teaching, I fail to understand it."
Master Nyuri: "Truly there is no teaching to be understood. Do not seek for understanding."
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Emmon: "And in the end, what?"
Master Nyuri: "No beginning and no end."
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Emmon: "Then is there no cause and effect either?"
Master Nyuri: "Without beginning there is no end."
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Emmon: "How can this teaching then be verified?"
Master Nyuri: "Truth is not something that needs to be verified."
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Emmon: "And how is it to be known and seen?"
Master Nyuri: "By knowing the suchness of all things – by seeing the equality of all things."
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Emmon: "What heart knows? What eye sees?"
Master Nyuri: "The knowing of not-knowing, the seeing of not seeing."
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Emmon: "Who makes this statement?"
Master Nyuri: "This is what I ask myself too."
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Emmon: "What do you mean by ‘this is what I ask myself too?"
Master Nyuri: "If you ponder your own question, the answer will arise of itself."
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At this Emmon fell silent and pondered deeply
Master Nyuri: "Have you nothing more to say?"
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Emmon: "I do not see one single thing, not even the tiniest speck of dust. There is nothing more to be said."
Master Nyuri: "It seems that now you have glimpsed the principle of truth."